How can we move from a mindset of scarcity to one of abundance?

In today’s episode, Leisa Peterson, author of The Mindful Millionaire and The Money Catalyst, joins us to explore how our early money beliefs can hold us back and how to create a healthier, more abundant relationship with money. Leisa shares how she overcame her own scarcity mindset, the impact it had on her marriage, and practical steps you can take to enjoy your wealth and your life with more freedom and trust.

Then, in our Net Worth Win segment, we meet Sushant Thakray from North Carolina. Sushant and his wife Amrita have built a $3 million net worth in their 40s and achieved financial independence after years of living below their means, investing steadily, and staying debt-free. He explains how they grew from $30,000 of student debt to full financial freedom, how they’re passing money lessons to their kids, and what life looks like now that he’s “retired from corporate life, but not from life.”

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PODCAST CHAPTERS

00:00 – Leisa Peterson on overcoming scarcity thinking

00:28 – Today’s two segments overview

01:15 – Defining a scarcity mindset

02:10 – How early money beliefs shape our behavior

04:30 – Moving toward abundance and trust

06:30 – Recognizing scarcity triggers

07:10 – Leisa’s “candy bar” story and breaking old patterns

09:45 – Parenting and passing down money beliefs

10:50 – How to identify your money story and triggers

12:30 – Scarcity and marriage dynamics

15:30 – Navigating abundance vs. frugality in relationships

16:20 – The $4,000 New Zealand trip that changed everything

18:15 – First steps to embracing abundance

20:20 – Finding joy and celebrating life’s moments

21:30 – Leisa’s new book: The Money Catalyst

23:25 – Introducing Net Worth Win: Sushant Thakray

24:00 – From average student to millionaire mindset

25:00 – Motivation shifting from money to freedom

26:20 – Paying off $30,000 in student loans

27:45 – Living below their means and saving for freedom

29:45 – Retiring from corporate life, not from purpose

30:20 – Breaking down a $3 million net worth

32:10 – Teaching his kids about money and investing early

34:00 – Generational wealth through knowledge and mindset

36:00 – Redefining retirement and designing a free life

37:30 – Advice for new investors and wealth builders

38:40 – Connect with Sushant and his Money with Swabi channel

39:35 – Andy’s update on Own Your Time book pre-orders

39:50 – Quote of the Week: Eckhart Tolle on gratitude and abundance

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CREDITS

Podcast Artwork: Liz Theresa

Editor: Johnny Sohl

Podcast Support: Andy Hill

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